tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post7808849270059336555..comments2024-03-27T18:59:45.832-04:00Comments on Massachusetts and More Genealogy Blog: Peter Browne 1595-1633 of Surrey and Plymouth Chrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04871808068395590865noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-19562646857124246592023-08-21T19:15:44.320-04:002023-08-21T19:15:44.320-04:00I did not word that well at all. We are descendan...I did not word that well at all. We are descendants to a Mayflower passenger (maybe two) and not related to a descendant haha. And we were here since the beginning of Europeans being here in New England. Not the beginning of Europeans to the continent, or settlement (Jamestown).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-13564426067602762572023-08-21T13:23:53.760-04:002023-08-21T13:23:53.760-04:00Our family has been here (Massachusetts) from the ...Our family has been here (Massachusetts) from the beginning of Europeans being here I meant. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-34056522105687759902023-08-21T12:17:19.407-04:002023-08-21T12:17:19.407-04:00Hi Chris, No response on this so far. I discovered...Hi Chris, No response on this so far. I discovered we are directly related to another descendent though...through the Hascal/Haskell line and Patience Soule, to George Soule. No controversy there. But, I really feel it is awfully suspicious that the John and Johnathan Brown link to Peter has not been more thoroughly examined to determine accuracy (maybe it has). There is a relation through another line to the Gentlemen John Browne and his daughter, Mary, but this is definitely not a relation to Peter, though this fellow was well respected in Plymouth. His daughter married Thomas Willet, first mayor of NYC. We are directly related to both (obviously). Our family has been here since the beginning, of that I was pretty sure. Anyway, somewhere way back in time then, our family's were acquainted on this ship The Mayflower. Through George Soule at least. And possibly Peter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-23148295544703894812023-07-16T18:48:37.565-04:002023-07-16T18:48:37.565-04:00It would be amazing for more people to be able to ...It would be amazing for more people to be able to claim Peter as a descendant. I hope someone more knowledgeable than me sees this!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871808068395590865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-1861268109996955272023-07-13T09:30:41.968-04:002023-07-13T09:30:41.968-04:00Hi Chris, Maybe "snobbery" was the wrong...Hi Chris, Maybe "snobbery" was the wrong term. What I was trying to say is that it is possibly viewed as a high goal or lofty ground so to speak for a genealogist or historian to prove or disprove descent from Mayflower lines. It just seems odd to me to base "proof" to be the exclusion from real estate transactions (from birth/existence) and absence from Freeman rolls (for death). There could be many reasons (besides the scant records) that a person would not be seen in the divisions of property, including estrangement from the family. Also, many very young people left an area prior to making it to the age of 21 which I believe was the age you could become a Freeman? I also feel that there is something fishy about the fact that John Brown was regarded as being descended from Peter Browne the passenger in encyclopedias and within the family until a certain date when certain folks got involved in disproving the notion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-1641225089081962512023-07-13T06:37:39.033-04:002023-07-13T06:37:39.033-04:00I honestly don't believe anyone is excluded be...I honestly don't believe anyone is excluded because of "snobbery." It's always possible to prove new lines. I personally had a situation where a line of descent to another Mayflower passenger wasn't included in the GSMD silver books, but another descendant had it accepted according to the Society's standards of proof, so it is possible for new lines to be accepted. Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871808068395590865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-84814157751661022782023-07-12T11:00:28.102-04:002023-07-12T11:00:28.102-04:00The abolitionist, John Brown and family had long c...The abolitionist, John Brown and family had long claimed relation to the Mayflower Peter through the Windsor CT Peter Brown. Could it be recent historians for the Mayflower don't want to associate him with a Mayflower passenger? I know there is a lot of snobbery regarding connections to Mayflower passengers. The historians generally regarded this Peter of Winthrop to be the son until other historians started disputing that about 100 years ago, saying that the fact he wasn't in the real estate divisions/transactions of the passenger's property after his death that it proved he wasn't related. I hardly think that proves anything. Maybe Peter of Winthrop didn't want anything to do with the property. Maybe he wanted his sister/half-sisters to have it. I think it means something when a family like John Brown the abolitionist passes info for generations regarding their relationship to Peter the passenger and then a bunch of people get on board to disprove the notion. I found at least one list of descendancy photograph from a Bible passed down in this family showing the relation. Many early encyclopedias and historians regarded it as true. Bradford said he had "divers wives and divers children" in his notes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-62326529144200857232023-07-11T20:39:41.428-04:002023-07-11T20:39:41.428-04:00I've wondered about the child of Peter whose n...I've wondered about the child of Peter whose name isn't know, but unfortunately I don't have any information. Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871808068395590865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-51476011314992484912023-07-09T22:19:26.446-04:002023-07-09T22:19:26.446-04:00Does anyone know anything regarding the controvers...Does anyone know anything regarding the controversy over Peter Brown (and possible sister Isabel) who could have been children of Peter Browne’s (and Mary) who were both born in Plymouth Colony and then both lived in Winthrop, CT. The only reason that they aren't recognized as his children is that they were not included in the division of his property. Could Peter be the child they think didnt make it to adulthood? And Isabel the other child of Mary’s? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-22514763236553645672021-12-24T05:25:18.581-05:002021-12-24T05:25:18.581-05:00Peter is my 12th great grand uncle brother of my 1...Peter is my 12th great grand uncle brother of my 12tg great grandfather Thomas Brown (e) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05938601879737386461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-81254763980369794332021-12-24T05:23:46.044-05:002021-12-24T05:23:46.044-05:00I have found on ancestry that Peter was my 12th gr...I have found on ancestry that Peter was my 12th great grand uncle brother of my 12th great grandfather Thomas Brown(e)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05938601879737386461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-51304743320789320302020-12-19T19:54:49.854-05:002020-12-19T19:54:49.854-05:00I am a descendant.I am a descendant.jazzmajorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16458038708658652638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-81278033406544630462020-04-15T13:21:22.512-04:002020-04-15T13:21:22.512-04:00My husband share's this line also. I am still ...My husband share's this line also. I am still working on it, but it is through Sarah who married Samuel Allen and on down to Robbins in the 1900s.Belinda Jo Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09790659289854997599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-15638794469902690952019-07-25T22:59:32.680-04:002019-07-25T22:59:32.680-04:00Thanks, John! I'm catching up after realizing ...Thanks, John! I'm catching up after realizing Blogger stopped notifying me of new comments. Thomas Faunce is an interesting guy!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871808068395590865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-14344236501592004662018-10-16T00:30:59.120-04:002018-10-16T00:30:59.120-04:00Another connection...I love the way you tell these...Another connection...I love the way you tell these stories.<br />I descend from Martha's daughter Martha who married William Nelson and then their Jane who married Thomas Faunce.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09613035972742251989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3037326832482088445.post-28160900653646161872018-06-25T13:59:09.722-04:002018-06-25T13:59:09.722-04:00I share these ancestors with you. Mary Brown/Ephra...I share these ancestors with you. Mary Brown/Ephraim Tinkham are my 8th great-grandparents, so I suppose we are at least 9th cousins! BTW recently I notice a maiden name for Peter's first wife, no sources cited. Have you seen that? Thank you for this interesting post!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10710285314852098165noreply@blogger.com